Saturday 24 February 2007

Our Stadium

[In response to a pretty drunken "debate" between Captain Frank Haddock, mmmParsons and myself... I think]

Now I love being Irish, I think its great and that the country is pleasing to acceptable, just want to make that clear to the republican Irish or not Irish at all mentality (Dave). And I for one, am happy that God save the Queen is going to be played in Croker. Yes the stadium was the site of a murderous attack by British forces on an unarmed, peaceful civilian target, yes I know why hill 16 is so-called and the Hogan stand but what possible benefit will arise from being disrespectful to the English anthem today?

The people that don't want to see the English in Croke park are the same narrow-minded people that just want a united Ireland, right now, post haste! But being generally aggressive towards the English population is not going to accomplish anything. More so than that, and perhaps more relatively, Republicans aren't going to quell any primitive Unionist fears of Rome Rule with a blatant show of disrespect for the English anthem. One thing that everybody seem to have overlooked is that Croke park is a an Irish symbol if you will, with a very deep history and yes, a significant link to Irish republican history BUT its only Irish people that really understand this.

We get so wound up in all this anthem bullshit we tend to forget, the English and French teams who came to play here don't know any of this history. "What!?" I hear the angry Republican in you cry, "those English bastards don't know what they did here 90-odd years ago?!" Well no, of course they don't, why would they? And this is yet another reason why the anthem should be respected, just because for the English and their supporters, whether we like it or not, this is just simply another game in a different venue. There are no historical trappings for them so if they were to turn up and be heckled and booed that would simply reflect poorly on us as a nation of Irish people more than anything else.

And a nation of Irish people is what we are for 80 minutes today. Albeit devoid of any Connacht representatives at the moment, the Irish rugby team unites north and south in a decidingly more significant way then the GAA can ever do on the international stage. Being one of the few institutions which we, as an island, actually work together with each other, surely all logic would have republicans clamouring over each other to hold the IRFU up as a symbol of the real possibility of united Ireland but instead it is denounced as an "English" sport. This backward, deconstructive thinking threatens to destroy what could be one of the most important sporting moments in Irish history. Who honestly doesn't want to see this? Our country united under the banner of rugby, playing in what should be our national stadium for only the second time, against the auld enemy?

Besides... its only a fucking game of rugby...

[I'm kinda hungover writing this, if I can bother my ass I'll make a more coherent argument later]


Ben said...

just wanted to say tho macka, for me, there was no harm in making it as intimidating as possible for the english team, they looked scared shitless today and that only added strength to our performance.

And with regards to the Anthem, it's utter shite and deserves to be booed. i wouldnt be booing english people, just the anthem and its big old monarchial declarations. personally i find that stuff repulsive. and anyway anthems most of the time mean nothing to people. if u actually listen to the lyrics.

Macka said...

intimidating yes, but there was talk of the English anthem being booed and thats just unneccessary. A bit of respect for the opposition is never a bad thing

You may find the subject matter of the English anthem repulsive (I find the whole thing sickening in the extreme) but most anthems are the same, some patriotic mumbo-jumbo usually involving the slaying of foreign enemies in pride in the countries ruler/freedoms/ideals.

Also, how can you EVER think that the lyrics to a national anthem mean nothing to a country's people? La Marseillaise? Flower Of Scotland? Land Of Our Fathers? National pride, a love for ones culture or history? Whats not to love? Anthems, whether you like it or not can be an intregal part of a country's identity

O Flower of Scotland
When will we see you likes again
That fought and died for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

Those days are past now
And in the past they must remain
But we can still rise now
And be that nation again
That stood against him
Proud Edward's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again

Jamie said...
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Jamie said...

"the Irish rugby team unites north and south in a decidingly more significant way then the GAA can ever do"

100% agreed. Read my second latest blog